Many of our community members seek guidance about what food to shop for and how to prepare it. Even within our organization however, there are differing opinions expressed. My intention in writing this article is to encourage you to do your own research so that you can make informed decisions that fit with your values, preferences, budget, and comfort. I also want to address a concerns raised about a particular brand recommendation for cod liver oil that came up this week.
The Weston A. Price Foundation’s Shopping Guide
Every year the Weston A. Price Foundation publishes a shopping guide recommending products that fit into their dietary recommendations. It comes as a hard copy sent to all members, and is available as an App for Apple devices called Find Real Food. It is also available as a web based shopping guide. The Shopping Guide is organized into best, good and avoid categories. The criteria by which products are categorized, is published on the Foundation’s website. An example is:
FRESH MEAT
BEST
Fresh or frozen beef, veal, lamb, poultry, goat and pork, including fat and organ meats, from (preferably soy-free) animals allowed to graze; venison and other game meat. For a list of farmers providing grass-fed animal products, see Eat Wild or Local Harvest, or contact a local chapter of the Weston A. Price Foundation. Note: It is important to consume organ meats and meat with the fat. Consumption of lean meats can lead to deficiencies.
GOOD
Organic or naturally raised poultry, pork, veal and rabbit; beef, bison, lamb and goat.
AVOID
Most commercial chicken, turkey and pork, which is raised in confinement on industrial farms.
Other categories include milk, fresh cheese, aged cheese. cream, eggs, etc. From my perspective, the cod liver oil category in particuarly has received a fair amount of scrutiny and attention, and continues to. This is a statement provided to me by Sally Fallon Morell, President of the Weston A. Price Foundation, about concerns raised this week:
Concerns about the NutraPro brand of cod liver oil:
A controversy has arisen over the NutraPro brand of cod liver oil, one of three brands of cod liver oil in our “Best” category in the shopping guide.
Nutra-Pro is described as “Virgin Cod Liver Oil,” which as best as we can determine, is steam extracted. This is an extraction at a lower temperature than most brands of cod liver oil, which are extracted through a process called molecular distillation. The other two brands in the Best category are not heated. The Blue Ice cod liver oil is extracted from the livers through fermentation and the Rosita brand (described as “Extra Virgin Cod Liver Oil”) is released from the cod livers after a rapid change in temperature. All three brands contain natural vitamins A and D, with nothing added.
The Weston A. Price Foundation has conducted rancidity tests on all three brands. We found no signs of rancidity in the [Green Pasture] Blue Ice cod liver oil and very low signs of rancidity in the other two brands. The results of these tests were presented at Wise Traditions 2015 and also published in the Spring 2016 issue of Wise Traditions. Oil #4 is the Nutra-Pro brand. [Here is a more readable version of the article.]
It was recently brought to our attention that the president of the Nutra-Pro distribution company has a criminal record as a sex offender in 2007. We need to make it clear that the Weston A. Price Foundation does not do background checks on the owners of the companies recommended in our Shopping Guide. We have over three thousand products listed there, and to research the backgrounds of the owners is beyond our budget and not part of our mission statement. We do our best to produce a guide containing products that conform to our guidelines, but cannot vouch for the overall accuracy of the guide or the background of the owners. Whether individuals wish to purchase the NutraPro cod liver oil given this knowledge is their individual decision.
It turns out that the owner of NutraPro is Tilak Dhiman, once a distinguished professor of dairy science at the University of Utah and an expert in lipid science. He is listed as an author of twenty-two papers on CLA, and the importance of grass-based feeding of dairy cows. In fact, he was an eloquent voice for a return to pasture-based feeding and was a speaker at Wise Traditions in 2006. So he is very qualified to assess the qualities of the cod liver oil that he distributes, and we have never had any complaints about the product.
The Weston A. Price Foundation does not have any financial interest in any of the companies listed in the Shopping Guide.
To thine own self be true.
I think it is incumbent upon each of us to research the products we consume independently, and not to solely rely on guidelines offered by the Weston A. Price Foundation or any other entity. We may each have different criteria. Perhaps some of us prioritize locally produced goods. For some it may be important that none of the producers they purchase from have a criminal record, while others may actually want to support those who have had a prior criminal record as they rehabilitate. Our decision may depend on the type of criminal record it is. Perhaps some want to buy goods from those who share their political sensibilities, or the same faith. We may want to buy goods from those who oppose mandatory vaccines, or fracking, or corporal punishment. Or we may not care about whether or not the producer shares these kind of values, and just want to know the products are certified organic.
I don’t agree with all of the Weston A. Price Foundation’s recommendations, even though I serve in a position of leadership as a chapter leader, honorary board member, and while directing this educational initiative. I don’t expect to agree with all of the recommendations of any organization or individual I am associated with. For example, I differ on the recommendations made regarding milk. The Foundation lists full-fat pasteurized, non-homogenized milk from grass-fed animals, without added vitamins in the good category. For me, personally, pasteurized milk of any kind is an avoid, and I don’t recommend it, as I shared in this article I wrote: Are there any substitutes you recommend for raw milk?. If it isn’t raw milk, I don’t drink it and don’t recommend others do either. This difference in opinion I have with the Foundation’s Shopping Guide is not one that would prompt me to leave the fold of this organization. We will each decide for ourselves the point at which we can agree to disagree and the point at which we decide to part ways.
What about the cod liver oil recommendations?
Back to the topic of cod liver oil. For some, the testing and scientific analysis on the various brands, including Fermented Cod Liver Oil, have quieted any concerns about their safety. Others don’t trust the reports. Some have decided to part with the Weston A. Price Foundation because it continues to recommend Green Pasture in the best category. I feel very comfortable with the continued recommendation of Fermented Cod Liver Oil, don’t doubt its safety, and at the same time understand and respect that it may not be suitable for everyone. I am clearly not alone in my assessment, as recent customer testimonials reveal in the comments of this Green Pasture giveaway. Green Pasture will soon be publishing more independent scientific analysis about how it is that their cod liver oil is so stable, and about the naturally protective elements in their product. For some, the fact that NutraPro’s president has a criminal record as a sex offender is a deal breaker. They won’t buy the product, and won’t support an organization that continues to list the product in the best category. I agree with Sally on this one: it is up to you.
We all have our own criteria by which we discern for ourselves what our comfort level is, and who we want to support. I encourage you to decide for yourself at every turn. We don’t recommend chocolate, and some eat it nontheless while continuing to be associated with our cause. We don’t recommend juicing, and some passionately defend its merits, and have left the fold of our organization. If there are too many recommendations made that don’t resonate with you, we may simply not be a match.
How do we handle differences of opinion?
“Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.” – Marcus Aurelius
We can certainly come to different conclusions when presented with the same information. From my vantage point, as someone who embraces the principles of Nonviolent Communication, it doesn’t mean either party is wrong or bad. We just don’t see the situation in the same way. In this current political climate of what I experience as extreme vitriol, I see folks spending a fair amount of time pointing the finger of blame and hoping to make others wrong. I also experience what I would refer to as character assassination, and have even been the recipient of it. We don’t recommend vaccinations, for example. I’ve been called uneducated, irresponsible, idiotic, stupid … and worse. I understand that it can be hard for us to understand why others choose a different course than we would. Again, if the recommendations made by this organization don’t line up with your values, or your conclusions, then this organization may simply not be a good match for you.
Know the hands that feed you.
In conclusion, to answer the question posed in the title of this article: How do we decide what to nourish ourselves and our children with? To the extent that it serves me, I know the hands that feed me and decide for myself if what they produce meets the standards I am comfortable with. I encourage our community members to do the same. The Weston A. Price Foundation’s Shopping Guide can certainly serve as a starting point, however we are empowered to decide for ourselves.
32 Responses to How do we decide what to nourish ourselves and our children with?
Great article! Thanks so very much!
Very well put, Sandrine! We all make the best decisions we can with the information at hand. I also respect the Weston A. Price Foundation (WAPF) tremendously. I am a chapter leader and the host of the Wise Traditions podcast for WAPF. I do believe in wise traditions from the past informing my choices today, which is why I am grateful for WAPF shedding light on what our ancestors have done. That said, I know that they are not responsible for my family’s health. Ultimately that falls on me.
Great article. I’m glad you’ve tackled the topic. I’ve had issues to with the whole attack on Nutrapro and cod liver oil in general.
I also don’t agree with WAPF on everything (as I’m sure most don’t), but I see the overall mission of the foundation as a good message. It’s important for people with differences of opinions to work together. Everyone going in their own direction due to disagreements doesn’t solve anything.
Great article. I’m glad you’ve tackled the topic. I’ve had issues to with the whole attack on Nutrapro and cod liver oil in general.
I also don’t agree with WAPF on everything (as I’m sure most don’t), but I see the overall mission of the foundation as a good message. It’s important for people with differences of opinions to work together. Everyone going in their own direction due to disagreements doesn’t solve anything.
Thank you for this … Great article and I think it’s the appropriate perspective.
Thank you! There are so many layers to my decision making! WAPF is one of my most valued and influential guides on how I make decisions, but ultimately, it’s on me.
This is such a great piece and so true. We can agree or disagree on any issue but in the end what matters is that I feel confident in the choice I made for my family.
Exactly! Thanks for your words of support!
So, now that the criminal record in question has been thoroughly white washed for the WAPF consumer, my question is where do YOU stand? You have no problem saying you don’t drink pasteurized dairy. What is your feelings about a pervert putting his hands all over the CLO you’d be serving to your children?
I don’t have children, as I’ve written about, however if I did I’d serve them the Green Pasture products I have taken since 2004. I don’t have any experience with NutraPro. I would not be inclined to punish the president of this company for his actions in 2007 by withholding my financial support. He is closely supervised, and I think it is possible to change course in life. I have experienced fundamental transformations in my own life, as have close friends and family who have let go of pattens of behavior that were destructive to themselves or others. I would certainly prefer that he had never solicited a young girl the way he did, seemingly prepared to act on his plans. I envision he does to.
Hi, Sandrine, thanks so much for your blog post.
Although I do not agree with your position of promoting products by a convicted pedophile to women with young children, I respect your quick response and applaud you for posting an article. You are one of the few real food bloggers who has addressed this very serious issue of the brands that are being recommended by WAPF when it comes to cod liver oil.
I am sure that you are familiar with the fact that Sally Fallon Morell has repeatedly stated for years that cod liver oil must have the right ratio of vitamins A & D, otherwise it is toxic. Remember the controversy with Dr. Mercola back in 2009? This was the topic of discussion, and Sally agreed with Dr. Mercola that anything above a 10:1 ratio of A & D is toxic.
I’m curious … If there were a cod liver oil that had the wrong ratio of vitamins A & D, say it was higher than 10:1, and if the vitamin D was too low in the product, do you think it should be recommended by WAPF? Sally has always been adamant that she will not recommend a product like this. I’m just wondering if you agree.
Ann Marie
Just as a point of clarification, while we have a blog, we are not a blog. I established Nourishing Our Children as an educational initiative of the San Francisco Chapter of the Weston A. Price Foundation in 2005 and only launched our blog at the very end of 2011. Our blog is just one of our educational efforts, but not actually our main focus. I don’t even publish on our blog every month. So, I don’t identify myself as a real food blogger in comparison to those who use that title! Nonetheless, I do understand and respect that you aren’t comfortable promoting a brand distributed by someone who has a criminal record as a sex offender, and that is clearly your choice as one who has followers of your own.
Regarding your question, I consulted with Sally Fallon Morell to ensure my response would be accurate. She explained “All cod liver oil brands in the Best Category were tested for rancidity. Rosita was the worst. Fermented Cod Liver Oil the best with absolutely no rancidity. We only tested Rosita and Green Pasture for vitamin levels. Green Pasture’s Fermented Cod Liver Oil is 6080 IU A/1645 D = 3.7. Rosita is 4130 A/198+1570 D = 2.5. Both are really excellent ratios, way under 10. The Rosita ratio is better than the Green Pasture because their product is lower in vitamin A.”
I am comfortable with the inclusion of all three brands in the Shopping Guide. You have already made it clear that you no longer want to associate with or promote the Weston A. Price Foundation due to your opposition to these recommendations. At this point, I ask the you direct all further questions to the Weston A. Price Foundation.
That’s a lot of hope right there. Supervised? I’d love to hear more about this close supervision while packaging (and/or labeling) products, in depth. Not that I would feel more inclined to feed anything like that to my kids. It’s just that your suggestion sounds like you know something about the specifics and I wonder if this is the actual case or just another bit of assumption created to diffuse the ugly nature of the situation and give you more personal grace and peace with your choices to tow the party line. But by the sound of your response, either way, you’re a much better person than I am. That’s the gist, right? You can take the moral high ground all day. Someone who has a proved track record of uncaring, much less harm towards children won’t be feeding mine their lunches. Just like you said, my choice but the facts a little more crystal.
I don’t know if the President of NutraPro is involved in the packaging/labeling of product, however according to the reports I’ve read he is supervised while on probation. Nonetheless, I sincerely understand and wholeheartedly respect your decision not to purchase this product due to his criminal record. I don’t see my position as indication that I am a better person or even taking the moral highground. Not at all. It is simply my perspective. I have no interest in judging other’s choices on this matter as right or wrong. Each of us will do what is comfortable for us and our family, and I accept that. The whole point of my article is to encourage folks to decide for themselves.
Very well written, and I fully agree. We may all share some similarities on certain topics, but doesn’t mean we absolutely need to share all. And just because we don’t share all views in the same way/perspective, “we are empowered to decide for ourselves.” Thank you, Sandrine Love :)
Very well written, and I fully agree. We may all share some similarities on certain topics, but doesn’t mean we absolutely need to share ALL. And just because we DON’T share all views in the same way/perspective, “we are empowered to decide for ourselves.”
I stand by WAPF and will continue to buy Green Pasture as I have seen the difference it has made in my children’s teeth.
Love NVC makes it onto an article about food!! You rock, Sandrine Love! Thank you.
Very well said, as always. Thank God for you!
Very profound and truthful, Sandrine Love.
Sandrine, Could you please share your opinion about yogurt? I buy grass fed yogurt for my son but it’s made out of pasteurized milk and I never saw raw yogurt.
My first choice is raw milk yogurt.
I have never seen raw yogurt sold on retail shelves either. You can make it yourself if you have access to raw milk. I have purchased it directly from a local farmer.
Links to make your own:
Cultures For Health
Nourished Kitchen
Kitchen Stewardship
A Campaign for Real Milk
From the Weston A. Price Foundation:
Yogurt and Kefir
Best
Plain, naturally cultured yogurt and kefir, preferably raw, without additives, made with whole non-homogenized milk from grass-fed animals.
Good
Plain, whole yogurt and kefir from non-homogenized milk, without added vitamins.
Avoid
Lowfat and sweetened yogurt and kefir; yogurt and kefir from homogenized milk; yogurt and kefir with added vitamins.
I believe that the products recommended by WAPF are generally safe and nourishing. I may not always follow every advisory, but I do believe their education and outreach has benefited the lives of many who otherwise may not have been able to heal from chronic health issues.
I personally have no issue with someone selling a product who has been convicted of the crime described in your article. I have read that a number of bloggers and other folks have recommended this product. If it’s something that works for them where other recommended brands do not, I’m glad that resource is available. Not all products or foods work for everyone. Thank you for taking the time to write this!
So beautifully put. Ultimately, each of us is responsible for our own lives and own choices. We can identify friends or organizations with whom our beliefs are aligned and they can aid and support us but at the end of the day, we are responsible. For me, I have found that questioning the source of any information and possible motivation of that source are helpful in determining how I will interpret any piece of information. Each of us must make our own way in the world and do it the best we can. Thanks for sharing this thoughtful opinion.
It would be crazy if we all followed the exact same principles down to the letter – we each need to make the best decisions for our families and our circumstances.
Excellent article, Sandrine! Very well written and thoughtful. I so appreciate the resources that Nourishing Our Children and Weston A. Price Foundation provide to help us navigate food aisles and choices. In the end, it is one’s own decision. I suggest in my classes that individuals “find their feet (on a subject) and stand”. Ultimately, yes, “to thine own self be true”. Thank you for the reminder!
Thank you, Sandrine, for this balanced, thoughtful perspective!!! I agree wholeheartedly. Your clear, calm voice cuts through the fog of sensationalism and hostility.
I had used Green Pastures FCLO for years and never had a problem with it until I switched to Nutra Pro’s CLO only because it was more affordable and wasn’t distilled with synthetic vitamins added in, as most CLO on the market is. Our financial situation changed when my husband returned to school so that we had to tighten our budget considerably. After reading multiple reports on both sides of the controversy, I am perfectly comfortable using either FCLO or Nutra Pro’s CLO.
Like you, I am not concerned that this man’s criminal record has any bearing on the quality of his company’s product–clearly he is more than qualified as a scientist and one whose research supports principles of healthy traditional diets, agriculture, and animal husbandry.
It has been incredibly discouraging to see this man publicly crucified and his past used as a weapon against the WAPF and also against his company’s product itself. How would any of us feel if our worst mistakes and sins were dug up and paraded as a spectacle for all the world to see (and make commentary on), especially years after the fact and possibly enormous effort had been spent to build a new life and become restored? How tragic for society if those with criminal records are thwarted at every attempt to live well and make an honest living! What’s the alternative? Welfare? Crime? Who wants to hire an ex-convict? To become a business owner–and keep your name and face out of the public eye–is really the most logical option.
The arguments against Nutra Pro’s CLO are just classic ad hominem at this point, so until solid evidence exists refuting the quality of the product, there’s really nothing to say against it. And if running Nutra Pro helps this man to rebuild a healthy and honest life I will gladly support it.
I appreciate your perspective and while I happen to share it, I certainly respect the decision to discontinue buying the product.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/10/28/cdc-director-arrested-for-child-molestation–bestiality.aspx
Just wanted to add this perspective regarding people not following an organization due to inappropriate behavior by said leader. I don’t blame people for not wanting to buy NutraPro CLO after finding out about its leaders child sex offenses.
Here’s an excerpt from Mercola’s article I agree with,
“I believe it’s relevant to be aware that someone in charge of your child’s health is allegedly engaged in child abuse. Her actions raise serious questions in my mind about her level of concern for the health and well-being of children in general.”
I buy Green Pasture Fermented CLO so either way it doesn’t affect my choice but I would switch brands if I was buying NutraPro. Here this person is in charge of producing a product that nourishes children and adults alike and he himself is a sick individual. Just like the director of the CDC was even sicker, child sex offense stigmas are the worst to have. Whatever organization they’re linked to is tainted after news like that is made public.
However, I still support the Weston A Price organization because it’s distributing information about the quality of said product and even though they endorsed NutraPro CLO doesn’t mean they endorse child sex offenders.
Everyone has the choice to choose what they want to believe and who they support. That’s what makes America great, freedom of choice. That’s why people get so heated about the possibility of mandatory vaccinations or bullying by the state by denying public school attendance (which is illegal as there are exemptions in most states).
Your page is awesome Sandrine! I’m so happy I found you. I agree with your stance on vaccinations, raw milk, and most principles of WAPF. I’ve learned more about nutrition and health from WAPF and Dr Mercola than I ever did in school or from the media. Thanks a million :)
Thank you for sharing your perspective, Liz. You are correct! Neither Nourishing Our Children nor The Weston A. Price Foundation support adults soliciting children for sex. No one is asserting that we think that practice should become legal. What we are saying is that it is up to each of us to decide how that will impact our choice to purchase this product or not.
Thank you for this article! I struggle with explaining this to my local community and even family and friends. We (as a community) don’t have to agree to learn from each other. Too much unpleasantness is caused by people trying to justify their choices by condemning others who don’t agree.
Yes, that has been my experience, even in comments to this very article!